In this interview with ARUKAINO UMUKORO,
92-year-old Gabriel Olayide Olusanya and 90-year-old Florence Olusanya,
both retired civil servants, share a part of their history and the
secret of their 65-year-old marriage
Where did you school?
Gabriel: I attended St. Paul’s
Primary School, Odogbolu, Ogun State. I went to Ijebu Ode Grammar School
from 1938- 1944, where I sat for and passed the second grade school
certificate examination. After my secondary education, I sought
employment and got a job to work at the Federal Government Press, Lagos,
on January 10, 1945. I went to Yaba College of Technology, where I
obtained a certificate in Administration. Later, I travelled to the UK
on scholarship given to me by my department at the Press. I was attached
to Norwich City College Arts School between 1954 and 1956. My final
certificate was the City and Guild of London, in 1957. I studied
printing in the UK and did my attachment with Messrs’ Jarrod Printing
Press, Norwich. I continued working with the Federal Government Press
when I returned to Nigeria.
Florence: I attended St. Saviours’ Primary School, Ijebu Ode. But I did not go to secondary school.
How was growing up like for you?
Gabriel: I grew up in Ijebu Ode.
My parents also brought me up to honour people and live with people
harmoniously. Those were some of the virtues they taught me; they always
cared for the people. My father was from a humble background and he had
a lot of relatives who ensured that I was properly trained. One of my
close relatives, Chief S.A Olukoya, the father of Sonibare of Maryland
Estate, trained me at Ijebu Ode. He was the manager of UAC Nigeria. He
was my mentor. He did a lot for me and I learnt a lot from him.
Florence: My father was a
successful cocoa farmer. I lived with my half-brothers later on, where I
spent different number of years with each of them. One used to work as a
railway inspector.
How would you describe your working experience?
Gabriel: I thank God that I was
able to serve my employers faithfully, to the extent that they honoured
me with such recommendation for training in the UK because I was not the
only one there. I was given that honour because of my loyal service and
what they saw in me. Also then, we had a British administrator who took
notice of me and recommended me for the training. I never thought of
resigning. I am grateful that I was sent to the UK, it helped me get
rapid promotions. I started with the technical department, but retired
as chief superintendent of the press, on level 14, in December 1984.
Florence: I worked at the Federal
Government Press as book binding assistant and retired as book binding
assistant. I retired with a salary of £22 10 pence. On retirement, I
thought about what to do to train our seven children, who were all
brilliant. So I decided to go into the business of selling beer.
What are your favourite meals?
Gabriel: Rice is my favourite food, I like eating it with vegetables. It is followed closely by Iyan (poundo yam), not the one they labour to make. I like eating it with efo.
I eat a lot of fruits too, especially banana. It supplements my protein
diet. My advice to people is that they should eat good and nourishing
food.
Florence: I like my Ikokore, it’s an Ijebu type of food. It is prepared with water yam. I like corn flakes and any good food.
How would you describe the Nigeria of your days?
Gabriel: The people feared God
more than they do now, although there are so many churches today.
Independence was good for Nigeria because the white men wanted to rule
us and take our money. On Independence Day in 1960, many Nigerians had
predicted that things would be better afterwards. Back then, we had a
special class of leaders like Chief Obafemi Awolowo and Nnamdi Azikiwe
who did their best.
Things are not working well in Nigeria
now because the leaders are not helping us. What bothers me now is the
lack of honesty of our leaders. They have failed to provide the basic
amenities and infrastructure for our people. We don’t have leaders who
are ready to make sure they help the country provide things like water,
electricity, good roads and health care system.
Florence: We enjoyed the country
before independence. Nigeria then was better than what we have today.
Then, you could cook for your family with only 10 or 50 pence. But now,
with N2, 000, you can’t go to the market to cook for your children. We
used to take my children to Leventis and Kingsway stores to buy stuff
for them. But now, things are different.
How did you meet and when did you get married?
Gabriel: We knew each other quite
well before we got married on August 5, 1948. I took great pains to let
her know I was in love with her then. She was also in love with me.
Luckily, we ended up working in the same place later on. My employers
gave her the chance to join me in the service because of the likeness
they had for me. We worked together in the same organisation till she
retired in 1971.
Florence: We met at Ijebu Ode. He
was attending Ijebu Ode Grammar School at that time, while I attended
St. Saviours’ School. Sometimes, we used to go to his school for sports
competitions or other extra-curricular activities. That was how we met.
Then, he used to visit me at home but my
father would drive him away. Fortunately, we met again when I relocated
to Lagos. When we came to Lagos, he was working at the Government
Press; while I was looking for a job. He was the one who told me to
write an application and bring it there, which I did and I got the job. I
was lucky to get my first job with my husband at Federal Government
Press at Broad Street Lagos in 1945. So, our relationship continued
until we got married in 1948. I retired in 1971. We have seven children.
What is the secret of your 65-year old marriage?
Gabriel: The secret is love. She
also gave me good children, children who are doing a lot for us today
and doing well for themselves. They are based in Nigeria, US and the UK.
Florence: We love each other. We
go for outings and come back together. Marriages break up today because
the wife or husband has no patience. Two people may fight, but a wife
should stick with her husband in good times and bad times. They should
also have patience in training the children. No matter the amount the
husband gives the wife for home keeping, she should be able to manage
it, whether it is a penny or £100. But nowadays, some people do not have
the patience for that. We never fought. If he gave me a penny, I took
it. If he didn’t, I was all right with that. We were patient with each
other.
Your husband said he went to great pains to let you know he loved you. What did he mean?
Florence: When my father drove
him away, we couldn’t speak with each other. But, we spoke to each other
whenever we saw outside. I gave him assurance that he shouldn’t be
worried, that I would marry him. My father kept driving him away for
about two years, until we came to Lagos. Then, my uncle, whom I was
staying with in Lagos, never allowed him to come into the house whenever
he came visiting me. We used to live on the second floor. So he would
stay outside until we closed the gate, then he would go home. I guess my
father refused to allow him visit me then because I had not introduced
him. By that time, I was still in school,but I was already working when I
was living with my uncle, who said that my husband was too black. But I
didn’t mind him being dark in complexion. My husband was patient enough
until we got married.
When you finally got married, what did you father say eventually?
Florence: Well, he got the dowry
and everything required, as tradition allowed, before our marriage. So
he was very glad. I got married at the age of 25.
How was it like training seven children?
Gabriel: It is another special
grace of God. They are all successful. We have a doctor, dental surgeon,
laboratory scientist, petroleum engineer, optometrist, senior special
assistant to Lagos State Governor Babatunde Fashola; another is also a
doctor and an assistant director at Federal Industrial Research, Oshodi,
Lagos.
Their mother was helpful in a great deal
also because when she retired in 1971, she went into business and had
more time to plan for herself and the family. She got favour from
friends to expand her business. God helped her to make some fortune,
which helped to train the children up to the university level. She was
able to help me pay for their tickets to the UK. There is nothing better
than the blessings of God. We now have ten grandchildren.
Florence: I started my business
three years after I retired from the service. It is very difficult to
train seven children, even up to secondary school, not to talk of
university. I spent the little profit I made to train the children and
support their education in the UK and US. One of my sons in the US got a
scholarship after he had secured admission into the university. The
university later refunded the one year school fees we had paid for him. I
gave it back to him to travel to do a summer holiday in London. Another
one also gained scholarship to study in the US. I thank God I was able
to train my children. Every year, I bought clothes and shoes for them
and organised Christmas parties for them. Some of them attended boarding
school then, like Mayflower School, Ikenne. But they appreciated it and
did very well in school.
What are your fondest memories and things you are most fulfilled about?
Gabriel: I was not a socialite. I
liked staying indoors. But I was successful in my career. Also, my
achievement is to see the grace of God upon my children. God has helped
me so much and also gave me a wonderful wife to support me. I have no
regrets. Rather I thank God.
Florence: I remember we used to
go dancing at Forrester, Lagos Island club and other places. But now,
you need to have a lot of money to go to such places. I like dancing,
even before we got married, I used to go to these places with my uncle. I
like all kinds of music. I was once a leading dancer for the late
Hubert Ogunde when I was much younger. I did it for a few years on a
part-time basis. I can’t remember all the performances I featured in,
but I remember Yoruba Ronu, Strike and Hunger. Also, my husband and I
loved to attend the Miss Nigeria pageant show every year. We didn’t miss
it. We are too old now to attend.
Is there anything that brings unpleasant memories?
Gabriel: That was when I lost one
of my daughters a few months ago. She has been one of the most loving
to me. That is the only thing that saddens me.
Florence: Our daughter was one of
my most beloved, which was why I didn’t want to celebrate my 90th
birthday. But my children prevailed on me to. They said, “Mummy, you are
a good mother.” They came from the US and UK to celebrate with me in
Nigeria. Losing her was painful.
What are your hobbies?
Gabriel: I was not involved in
sports. Now I cannot walk well. Because of the inconvenience walking
causes me, I hardly go out nowadays; although, in my younger days, I was
not a party crawler. But I loved watching television. Today, I watch
when I feel like watching.
Florence: I like travelling.
Before now, I used to travel to London or the US every year. Sometimes, I
stayed six months, a year or two years. I celebrated my 78th birthday
in London, 79th in the US and 80th in London. My husband and all my
children were there and we had a great occasion.
What’s the secret of your long life?
Gabriel: I give thanks to God
that I celebrated my 90th birthday and added two more years to it. The
secret is God Almighty. I don’t know any other secret, but that it is
the grace of God Almighty which has sustained me until today. It’s not
by just eating good food or living comfortably.
Florence: I didn’t live a wayward
lifestyle. I don’t drink. I only take soft drinks. Even though I sold
beer, I never tasted it because I didn’t like beer. I eat Ijebu
food (laughs). But I don’t want to live up to one hundred. To grow old
is not easy. I have arthritis now and can’t hear properly, but I thank
God for my life. My advice to people who want to live long is to pray to
God and He will give them anything they want. They will live long if
they can also exercise patience in life.
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